LINES OF THE DAY

". . . But the past does not exist independently from the present. Indeed, the past is only past because there is a present, just as I can point to something over there only because I am here. But nothing is inherently over there or here. In that sense, the past has no content. The past -- or more accurately, pastness -- is a position. Thus, in no way can we identify the past as past." p. 15

". . . But we may want to keep in mind that deeds and words are not as distinguishable as often we presume. History does not belong only to its narrators, professional or amateur. While some of us debate what history is or was, others take it into their own hands." p. 153

Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of History (1995) by Michel-Rolph Trouillot

Wednesday, October 8, 2008

Sticking Around After the So-Called Debate, Town Hall, Whatever

Sticking around, talking to the people who had to sit there under all those lights for who knows how long -- surely much longer than what can seem an endless hour and a half, without cell phone, text message, internet, no talking -- no BEER! while having to listen to so much blather, and having da mavrik basilisk topple up to you and fix you with his baleful eye.

Who do you think immediately went talking with them, one on one when it was over? Why, yes, it was Barack Obama AND Michelle Obama. People took pictures with their little disposable instamatics (no cell phones, no digital cameras allowed obviously, but this little sop they were given).

Michelle was there immediately engaging with members of the selected Tennessee viewers and questioners., even as her husband was still engaged with his oppponent (who it seems refused to shake hands with him) and stooge Tom Brokaw. Then Barack was there also -- and I gotta say, about 3/4 way through the event he was seeming a little tired. He's been engaged a very tough campaign for two full years already. I suppose that will tire someone somewhat. But with the voters though, he was fully present and engaged.

So, howz bout that other team? As usual, Cindy trailed at least 3 steps behind John. At one point it seemed somebody TOLD him to put his arm around her, which lasted of a nano, while not even looking at her. She spoke to not a single voter and shook hands with none. And then, they were gone, in less than two minutes.

Whereas Michelle and Obama, and Brokaw too, for all the minutes post the event the CNN feed kept the cameras streaming. All three of them were chatting with all the audience members, still at it, even as the streaming came to an end because, after all the talking heads couldn't wait to tell us what we saw and heard.

In terms of style, presentation, ideas, information, I give it all to Obama. But then, I probably would, wouldn't I? But then -- I didn't the first time around, but the wider audiences and bloggers, and then, thus the primary media, disagreed with me.

Da mavrik wandered aimlessly about the staging area, verbally as well as physically. His runnning mate appears to be Joe Lieberman -- who knew? Lieberman is the guy mavrik kept referring to -- his rock?

Mavrik lied so much of the time. He poured out blather, almost matching his actual running mate much of the time. What was that "That one," huh? Like not shaking hands?

Da mavrik looks and sounds like Bella Legosi in one of his most slimeball villain roles. He wandered the stage and stared at the audience. You waited for him to rub his hands, and he would have except for that pesky mic. He ducked his head into his neck and whistled at the audience, "My friendsss, I am going to solve the entitlement crisis (um last I heard and hear from everyone who knows about SS and medicare is that they don't have problems) by taking them away from you and giving it to the Pentagon. And our friendssssssss in Big Finance who take $400,000 junkets as a just award for the stress from begging $700 billion of YOUR money to bail out their freakin' incompetency and greed." Of course a 5 thousand dollar tax benefit is going to give me so much health insurance here in NYC -- but that's OK. If that doesn't work for me I can drive to Arizona. "And, why yessdssss, I lurve our people in service, which is why I voted against every benefit that's come up to help them out."

Obama, hands down, thumbs up, whatever.

How come nobody talks about the place of the arts in a Great Nation?

14 comments:

K. said...

The only questioner McSame had a decent comfort level with was the ex-Navy guy. The young black people...the less said the better.

The relationship to his wife is weird. I don't know that I've ever seen them show any kind of affection for each other.

Graeme said...

i probably shouldn't, but sometimes i feel sorry for Cindy McCain.

Foxessa said...

I've seen her make overtures of affectionate gestures, as after the first debate, but he just ignores her.

Love, C.

Foxessa said...

Graeme -- It feels to a lot of people, including an old friend of mine, who is from my part of ND, and is now a honcho in D.C. and before that was a JAG judge and litigator in all sorts of domestic and other issues for overseas army people that she shows all the signs of an abused wife. He's spent a lot of face-to-face time with mc over the years, particularly when moved to a big position in the Pentagon, and says everything you've ever heard about his temper, his lashing out and his instability is more true than you can imagine.

Needless to say he also is really hoping that mcpln don't carry the day.

Love, C.

K. said...

The guy just should not be president. He doesn't have the temperament, the intellect, or the vision. Plus, he's stuck in the past: Look who he mentioned last night: T. Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan. OK, he talked extensively about Joe "Benedict" Lieberman, but that's as a positive. He really thinks that working with that toxic s.o.b. is an example of bipartisanship?

A neighbor told me about watching Debate I with her sisters. Every time McCain told Obama that he "didn't get it", they all thought how awful it would be to be married to the guy. On the other side of the coin, we overheard New York woman describe Obama as "sex on a stick."

Frank Partisan said...

I thought Obama saying healthcare is a right, is important. Others should run with it.

Foxessa said...

Notably the one past figure neither of the candidates invoked was FDR. But with Obama, at least, one could almost make out the vision of FDR hovering at the edges of the frame.

Health care should be a right.

Love, C.

Foxessa said...

K -- I don't know where your most recent comment went! It's disappeared. Dayem.

I must be weird but comments of that nature about Obama disturb me in the same way as sexual comments about palin or Cindy do. I know it's stupid and irrelevant that I feel like this.

But it's something lingering in me that the office of POTUS deserves a certain gravitas. But then, the shrubs have destroyed that forever.

Besides, such remarks have been with us since the beginning. So I'm just stupid. Or a prude.

Love, C.

K. said...

Brokaw's phrasing of the health care question was curious: Is health a right, a privilege, or a responsibility? I think Brokaw was trying to lead McCain to an answer about health care being a personal responsibility, but McCain instead implied that it was an employer responsibility. (Good luck with that.) What I came away with was that when the question is put this directly, conservatives don't have an answer that they think will play. So I'm with Ren: There's a ball lying there just waiting to be picked up and run with.

Foxessa said...

There are so many balls for Obama's campaign to pick up.

Hooray! K -- Whatever happened before, your lost comment reappeared and now it is here.

What a week. What a day. That stock market has plunged. So much for the bailout and Mr. Paulson/Goldman Sachs and his henchies.

In the meantime the blood frenzy frothing out of Them is getting crazier. I don't think it is possible to share a nation with these people.

Go here and look at this video.

I'm not joking. You cannot share a nation with them, for they are determinedly not going to share with us. Their hatred and wilful ignorance is about the most terrifying thing I've seen -- this is what the criminalgangofcronies got their power from.

Love, C.

Frank Partisan said...

Roosevelt saved the economy by entering WWII.

Foxessa said...

Ren -- That's the mythology, anyway (like Grant was a drunk throughout the Civil War and before it). It's also part of the persistent conspiracy theory that FDR knew before hand that the Japanese planned to attack Pearl Harbor in order to do this.

The economy was recovering prior to the entry of the U.S.

No reputable history studies bear out either of these.

True, the ramping up of all sectors of the U.S. economy to turn out war matérial that put everyone to work, either in the military, the government, agriculture, transportation or manufacturing when almost all of the rest of the world's industry and trade came to a halt put us very rapidly on the top of the heap. North and South America were the only continents upon which active military action was absent. Which, along with the need for their raw resources, accounts for that era as the most prosperous Mexico, Central and South America ever experienced.

Love, C.

K. said...

However panicky things are now, it's not comparable to the Depression. When Roosevelt took office, unemployment was 25%. It was half that by the end of his second term. Also, the New Deal enacted farsighted and long reaching legislation like the Glass-Steagall Act (the undoing of which is central to the current panic) and Social Security, which effectively ended old age poverty. He also created a relationship between Americans and their government that lasted until Reagan (albeit greatly undermined by the Vietnam War and Watergate). Even Nixon toyed with the idea of socializing medicine. Roosevelt's accomplishments were monumental -- the best president since Lincoln with no peers since.

Foxessa said...

K -- I agree with your comment, except that Nixon began the process of dismantling the sort of health care system we had -- which was awfully good -- and deregulating the insurance companies. Essentially the idea was this privatization of government health services. Michael Moore's movie, Sicko, whatever else one might think of it, does a splendid job of documenting this, including video tapes where Nixon is laying out his strategy.

It'a perfect day here. So beautiful. I just returned from the river.

I declared this weekend a no-current events zone. :)

Love, C.